OK. So now you know I'm a Dilbert fan.
Beast
Wednesday, September 29, 2010
Monday, September 27, 2010
Re: TOH Ride Report
were still waiting for George to finish.
Re: TOH Ride Report
Sounds like a great ride.
I took advantage of riding alone to tour Caumsett State Park after Snake Hill. I rode a more relaxed pace without the usual Renegade pace pushers. Not that there is anything wrong with pushing the pace.
----- Original Message -----
From: Oriel Mor
Date: Sunday, September 26, 2010 10:43 pm
Subject: TOH Ride Report
To: Isaac Seinuk, Arthur Finkel , northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com, Jae Cho , "David J. Shereck" , David Wargin , Gus Condiles , Barry Feirstein , Greg Keller , George Uribe , Bill Eisenberg , Robert Leighton , Mitchel Lang , Larry Nipon , Todd Manas , Jan Lemerman , Yihao Ou , Anita Christofferson
> Fabulous ride today. Four of us departed from Great Neck while
> it was
> still dark: Locomotive, George, Beast and one of my favorite
> riding
> buddies, fellow A19 SIG leader and fellow BTC 2009 participant,
> Anita
> (who came to GN on an early train full of hung-over revelers
> from the
> previous night of partying in Manhattan). Afterburner met us at
> the
> start in Southampton. We were all a little late getting there
> and by
> 8:20 we finally got going.
>
> The weather was pleasantly cool, partly sunny, with a strong
> breeze
> from the east. For some reason my computer wasn't working today,
> so I
> had to occasionally ask someone else for our mileage and average
>
> speed, keeping it to a minimum to avoid being a pest.
>
> The first part of this century runs through an area of expensive
>
> vacation homes in Southampton. Lots of left turns and right
> turns,
> with glimpses of large homes past large gates and very tall and
> thick
> hedges that line the streets. We reached the first food and rest
> stop
> at about 25 miles. We just grabbed a couple of bananas and other
>
> munchies and kept going for the long out-and-back to Montauk and
> the
> lighthouse.
>
> It was tough pedaling against the fierce, relentless headwind
> for all
> those miles, but we knew we'd be rewarded with a wicked power
> boost on
> the return leg, and that prospect kept us motivated. Even
> against that
> headwind, Afterburner couldn't help his nature and kept
> exploding
> forward, especially on the climbs. After a short break with
> commemorative snapshot (see attached) we took full advantage of
> the
> strong tailwind and rocketed back westward. Back at the same
> food stop
> we took our first, much deserved, real break.
>
> At that point we ran into Serena, another of my fellow A19 SIG
> leaders. She was there with her own group of friends, but was
> somewhat
> frustrated by their slow pace. We invited her to ride with us.
> She was
> unsure and her group was ready to leave before us. She suggested
> we
> keep an eye out for her during our next leg and let her know
> when we
> caught up with her, at which point she'd gladly join us.
>
> Onward onto my favorite part of this ride, through the beautiful
>
> wooded areas of the south fork, along winding, rolling roads,
> with
> lots of pines and hardly any cars. This point in any century
> (Q3) I
> tend to start feeling tired and the rollers didn't help. We kept
>
> breaking up and regrouping as the miles and the rollers kept
> disappearing behind us.
>
> Eventually we did, in fact, catch up to Serena. This happened
> shortly
> after we had dropped George, who was beginning to struggle a
> bit. We
> thought he'd catch up to us soon enough. Instead, as it turned
> out, he
> had flatted right after we lost sight of him and — due to a
> series of
> circumstances and technical difficulties — had trouble getting a
>
> properly inflated wheel again for a while. Problem was, we had
> no idea.
>
> At the last food stop we were able to get back in touch with him
> and
> he reassured us he was OK and would be getting back to the car,
> eventually. He got some help from other riders and made it to
> the last
> food stop, where a mechanic finally took care of his wheel issues.
>
> As we started our last leg, we mistakenly exited the parking lot
> onto
> Rt. 27 and rode that for a couple of miles, but it was very busy
> with
> traffic and we soon realized we were not intended to be riding
> there.
> Locomotive, being very familiar with those parts in general and
> this
> ride in particular, easily found his way back to the marked
> route and
> we were once more in the game.
>
> The very last few miles took us due east again and we had no
> choice
> but to fight the strong headwind yet again. Nevertheless, being
> so
> close to the finish, we gave it all we had and, in the end,
> completed
> the ride in just under 6 1/2 hours, including breaks.
>
> The following link is for the GPS ride data that Afterburner uploaded.
>
> http://connect.garmin.com/activity/50703040?sms_ss=email
>
> We still had to wait quite a while for George — who was M.I.A.
> for
> almost an hour after the rest of us finished. Riders were still
> trickling in very sparsely and we decided to spare George the
> final
> wind-tunnel segment of the ride, since he was all by himself. We
>
> slowly retraced that last stretch with the truck and finally
> picked
> him up, still riding strong.
>
> The 5-then-4-then-5 of us rode very well together for the entire
>
> century, despite Afterburner's frequent bursts of speed and
> George's
> misfortune. Both Anita and Serena are awesome riders. Anita, in
> particular, is in need of a new fun group to ride with. Gee, who
> could
> she possibly be looking to join? If we open our eyes wide and
> pout our
> lips, she just might occasionally put up with the train commute
> and
> come out to Nassau to play us on weekends for a Renegades ride.
>
> Regards from Montauk Point.
>
> Beast
>
>
>
>
>
From: Oriel Mor
Date: Sunday, September 26, 2010 10:43 pm
Subject: TOH Ride Report
To: Isaac Seinuk
> Fabulous ride today. Four of us departed from Great Neck while
> it was
> still dark: Locomotive, George, Beast and one of my favorite
> riding
> buddies, fellow A19 SIG leader and fellow BTC 2009 participant,
> Anita
> (who came to GN on an early train full of hung-over revelers
> from the
> previous night of partying in Manhattan). Afterburner met us at
> the
> start in Southampton. We were all a little late getting there
> and by
> 8:20 we finally got going.
>
> The weather was pleasantly cool, partly sunny, with a strong
> breeze
> from the east. For some reason my computer wasn't working today,
> so I
> had to occasionally ask someone else for our mileage and average
>
> speed, keeping it to a minimum to avoid being a pest.
>
> The first part of this century runs through an area of expensive
>
> vacation homes in Southampton. Lots of left turns and right
> turns,
> with glimpses of large homes past large gates and very tall and
> thick
> hedges that line the streets. We reached the first food and rest
> stop
> at about 25 miles. We just grabbed a couple of bananas and other
>
> munchies and kept going for the long out-and-back to Montauk and
> the
> lighthouse.
>
> It was tough pedaling against the fierce, relentless headwind
> for all
> those miles, but we knew we'd be rewarded with a wicked power
> boost on
> the return leg, and that prospect kept us motivated. Even
> against that
> headwind, Afterburner couldn't help his nature and kept
> exploding
> forward, especially on the climbs. After a short break with
> commemorative snapshot (see attached) we took full advantage of
> the
> strong tailwind and rocketed back westward. Back at the same
> food stop
> we took our first, much deserved, real break.
>
> At that point we ran into Serena, another of my fellow A19 SIG
> leaders. She was there with her own group of friends, but was
> somewhat
> frustrated by their slow pace. We invited her to ride with us.
> She was
> unsure and her group was ready to leave before us. She suggested
> we
> keep an eye out for her during our next leg and let her know
> when we
> caught up with her, at which point she'd gladly join us.
>
> Onward onto my favorite part of this ride, through the beautiful
>
> wooded areas of the south fork, along winding, rolling roads,
> with
> lots of pines and hardly any cars. This point in any century
> (Q3) I
> tend to start feeling tired and the rollers didn't help. We kept
>
> breaking up and regrouping as the miles and the rollers kept
> disappearing behind us.
>
> Eventually we did, in fact, catch up to Serena. This happened
> shortly
> after we had dropped George, who was beginning to struggle a
> bit. We
> thought he'd catch up to us soon enough. Instead, as it turned
> out, he
> had flatted right after we lost sight of him and — due to a
> series of
> circumstances and technical difficulties — had trouble getting a
>
> properly inflated wheel again for a while. Problem was, we had
> no idea.
>
> At the last food stop we were able to get back in touch with him
> and
> he reassured us he was OK and would be getting back to the car,
> eventually. He got some help from other riders and made it to
> the last
> food stop, where a mechanic finally took care of his wheel issues.
>
> As we started our last leg, we mistakenly exited the parking lot
> onto
> Rt. 27 and rode that for a couple of miles, but it was very busy
> with
> traffic and we soon realized we were not intended to be riding
> there.
> Locomotive, being very familiar with those parts in general and
> this
> ride in particular, easily found his way back to the marked
> route and
> we were once more in the game.
>
> The very last few miles took us due east again and we had no
> choice
> but to fight the strong headwind yet again. Nevertheless, being
> so
> close to the finish, we gave it all we had and, in the end,
> completed
> the ride in just under 6 1/2 hours, including breaks.
>
> The following link is for the GPS ride data that Afterburner uploaded.
>
> http://connect.garmin.com/activity/50703040?sms_ss=email
>
> We still had to wait quite a while for George — who was M.I.A.
> for
> almost an hour after the rest of us finished. Riders were still
> trickling in very sparsely and we decided to spare George the
> final
> wind-tunnel segment of the ride, since he was all by himself. We
>
> slowly retraced that last stretch with the truck and finally
> picked
> him up, still riding strong.
>
> The 5-then-4-then-5 of us rode very well together for the entire
>
> century, despite Afterburner's frequent bursts of speed and
> George's
> misfortune. Both Anita and Serena are awesome riders. Anita, in
> particular, is in need of a new fun group to ride with. Gee, who
> could
> she possibly be looking to join? If we open our eyes wide and
> pout our
> lips, she just might occasionally put up with the train commute
> and
> come out to Nassau to play us on weekends for a Renegades ride.
>
> Regards from Montauk Point.
>
> Beast
>
>
>
>
>
Sunday, September 26, 2010
TOH Ride Report
Fabulous ride today. Four of us departed from Great Neck while it was still dark: Locomotive, George, Beast and one of my favorite riding buddies, fellow A19 SIG leader and fellow BTC 2009 participant, Anita (who came to GN on an early train full of hung-over revelers from the previous night of partying in Manhattan). Afterburner met us at the start in Southampton. We were all a little late getting there and by 8:20 we finally got going.
The weather was pleasantly cool, partly sunny, with a strong breeze from the east. For some reason my computer wasn't working today, so I had to occasionally ask someone else for our mileage and average speed, keeping it to a minimum to avoid being a pest.
The first part of this century runs through an area of expensive vacation homes in Southampton. Lots of left turns and right turns, with glimpses of large homes past large gates and very tall and thick hedges that line the streets. We reached the first food and rest stop at about 25 miles. We just grabbed a couple of bananas and other munchies and kept going for the long out-and-back to Montauk and the lighthouse.
It was tough pedaling against the fierce, relentless headwind for all those miles, but we knew we'd be rewarded with a wicked power boost on the return leg, and that prospect kept us motivated. Even against that headwind, Afterburner couldn't help his nature and kept exploding forward, especially on the climbs. After a short break with commemorative snapshot (see attached) we took full advantage of the strong tailwind and rocketed back westward. Back at the same food stop we took our first, much deserved, real break.
At that point we ran into Serena, another of my fellow A19 SIG leaders. She was there with her own group of friends, but was somewhat frustrated by their slow pace. We invited her to ride with us. She was unsure and her group was ready to leave before us. She suggested we keep an eye out for her during our next leg and let her know when we caught up with her, at which point she'd gladly join us.
Onward onto my favorite part of this ride, through the beautiful wooded areas of the south fork, along winding, rolling roads, with lots of pines and hardly any cars. This point in any century (Q3) I tend to start feeling tired and the rollers didn't help. We kept breaking up and regrouping as the miles and the rollers kept disappearing behind us.
Eventually we did, in fact, catch up to Serena. This happened shortly after we had dropped George, who was beginning to struggle a bit. We thought he'd catch up to us soon enough. Instead, as it turned out, he had flatted right after we lost sight of him and — due to a series of circumstances and technical difficulties — had trouble getting a properly inflated wheel again for a while. Problem was, we had no idea.
At the last food stop we were able to get back in touch with him and he reassured us he was OK and would be getting back to the car, eventually. He got some help from other riders and made it to the last food stop, where a mechanic finally took care of his wheel issues.
As we started our last leg, we mistakenly exited the parking lot onto Rt. 27 and rode that for a couple of miles, but it was very busy with traffic and we soon realized we were not intended to be riding there. Locomotive, being very familiar with those parts in general and this ride in particular, easily found his way back to the marked route and we were once more in the game.
The very last few miles took us due east again and we had no choice but to fight the strong headwind yet again. Nevertheless, being so close to the finish, we gave it all we had and, in the end, completed the ride in just under 6 1/2 hours, including breaks.
The following link is for the GPS ride data that Afterburner uploaded.
We still had to wait quite a while for George — who was M.I.A. for almost an hour after the rest of us finished. Riders were still trickling in very sparsely and we decided to spare George the final wind-tunnel segment of the ride, since he was all by himself. We slowly retraced that last stretch with the truck and finally picked him up, still riding strong.
The 5-then-4-then-5 of us rode very well together for the entire century, despite Afterburner's frequent bursts of speed and George's misfortune. Both Anita and Serena are awesome riders. Anita, in particular, is in need of a new fun group to ride with. Gee, who could she possibly be looking to join? If we open our eyes wide and pout our lips, she just might occasionally put up with the train commute and come out to Nassau to play us on weekends for a Renegades ride.
Regards from Montauk Point.
Beast
Saturday, September 25, 2010
Re: ToH & MS100 Rides
I will not be doing the TOH or MS ride this year. Have fun!!
--
- Arthur -
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 4:06 PM, B Feir <bfeir@yahoo.com> wrote:
I plan on riding tomorrow w/you guys in the Tour of Hamptons. Since I'm coming from the South Shore, I gues I'll be driving.thks,Barry
From: Oriel Mor <oriel61@gmail.com>
Subject: Hamptons Century Warm-Up Ride
To: "Isaac Seinuk" <isaacsei@optonline.net>, "Arthur Finkel" <quasiguru@gmail.com>, northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com, "Jae Cho" <jaekool@hotmail.com>, "David J. Shereck" <david@shereckvideo.com>, "David Wargin" <david_wargin@standardandpoors.com>, "Gus Condiles" <condiles@verizon.net>, "Barry Feirstein" <bfeir@yahoo.com>, "Greg Keller" <GKeller@chitwoodlaw.com>, "George Uribe" <george@visionimportgroup.com>, "Bill Eisenberg" <wjeis@aol.com>, "Robert Leighton" <rleighton@leightonassociates.com>, "Mitchel Lang" <mitchel@klearview.com>, "Larry Nipon" <larrynipon@gmail.com>, "Todd Manas" <Todd.Manas@towerswatson.com>, "Jan Lemerman" <krabice.sirek@seznam.cz>, "Yihao Ou" <yihaoou@yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, September 25, 2010, 2:58 PM
So much for taking it easy the day before a century.
I just couldn't get my ass out the door in time to catch the triangle group. Blame it on my hyperactive G-I system (mostly the "I" portion, always in the morning). Got to the LIE about 5 minutes late and spent the next 45 or so trying to chase down the group, occasionally passing one or two riders who had already been dropped. I didn't want to wait for the 8:30 group because, let's face it, I didn't want to spend the whole morning killing myself. A short while, perhaps, but not the whole morning.
After I turned onto Woodbury Road I finally spotted a bunch of them a bit of a way down the road and managed to catch them before the light at Jericho Turnpike. Turned out the group I caught was the slow bunch from the original 8:00 peloton. The faster bunch had probably turned onto Sunnyside, but I was too focused on the guys I saw up ahead to think to look to the side.
You know you're riding with a group that's too slow for you when you spend too much time just coasting along. I'm actually surprised they started with the 8:00 group. They also weren't all that good at avoiding potholes and I found myself riding through a bunch of them. By the time we reached Cold Spring I decided to ditch them and go my own way. While they kept straight onto Main I turned left toward Snake. So long, guys.
After the left hand hairpin on snake I saw a couple of riders just ahead of me. I passed them, as well as another woman on an old heavy bike, before I reached the top. They were all so slow that I hadn't even seen any of them until that turn. That's how fast I came up to them on the climb. After reaching the top of the climb I though to check my average. I was quite shocked to read 19.0. That was after I had already spend some time coasting with the slow group and the climb of Snake. I did have some tailwind during my chase along the LIE. From that point on, as I monitored my average, it just kept steadily dropping.
After the usual Huntington loop I decided to go back toward Cold Spring and climb Lawrence, Moore's and Sandy. I wasn't ready to head home yet and I needed to blow off some steam (mother-in-law issues... don't ask). Skipped the campus and rode back via Wheatley to the LIE and home.
Catching a 6:00 AM ride with Loco and others tomorrow for the Tour of the Hamptons. Always a beautiful ride. Will let you know how that went.
Beast
--
- Arthur -
ToH & MS100 Rides
I setup the Renegades Cycling Club for the MS Ride next week. Try to join the team if you're registered or plan on riding. Use this link or search for "Ren" under "Join a Team". Of course you can donate, but that's not the intention of this email. http://main.nationalmssociety.org/site/TR/Bike/NYNBikeEvents/39536685?pg=team&fr_id=14171&team_id=220357220357 I plan on riding tomorrow w/you guys in the Tour of Hamptons. Since I'm coming from the South Shore, I gues I'll be driving. thks, Barry --- On Sat, 9/25/10, Oriel Mor <oriel61@gmail.com> wrote:
|
Hamptons Century Warm-Up Ride
So much for taking it easy the day before a century.
I just couldn't get my ass out the door in time to catch the triangle
group. Blame it on my hyperactive G-I system (mostly the "I" portion,
always in the morning). Got to the LIE about 5 minutes late and spent
the next 45 or so trying to chase down the group, occasionally passing
one or two riders who had already been dropped. I didn't want to wait
for the 8:30 group because, let's face it, I didn't want to spend the
whole morning killing myself. A short while, perhaps, but not the
whole morning.
After I turned onto Woodbury Road I finally spotted a bunch of them a
bit of a way down the road and managed to catch them before the light
at Jericho Turnpike. Turned out the group I caught was the slow bunch
from the original 8:00 peloton. The faster bunch had probably turned
onto Sunnyside, but I was too focused on the guys I saw up ahead to
think to look to the side.
You know you're riding with a group that's too slow for you when you
spend too much time just coasting along. I'm actually surprised they
started with the 8:00 group. They also weren't all that good at
avoiding potholes and I found myself riding through a bunch of them.
By the time we reached Cold Spring I decided to ditch them and go my
own way. While they kept straight onto Main I turned left toward
Snake. So long, guys.
After the left hand hairpin on snake I saw a couple of riders just
ahead of me. I passed them, as well as another woman on an old heavy
bike, before I reached the top. They were all so slow that I hadn't
even seen any of them until that turn. That's how fast I came up to
them on the climb. After reaching the top of the climb I though to
check my average. I was quite shocked to read 19.0. That was after I
had already spend some time coasting with the slow group and the climb
of Snake. I did have some tailwind during my chase along the LIE. From
that point on, as I monitored my average, it just kept steadily
dropping.
After the usual Huntington loop I decided to go back toward Cold
Spring and climb Lawrence, Moore's and Sandy. I wasn't ready to head
home yet and I needed to blow off some steam (mother-in-law issues...
don't ask). Skipped the campus and rode back via Wheatley to the LIE
and home.
Catching a 6:00 AM ride with Loco and others tomorrow for the Tour of
the Hamptons. Always a beautiful ride. Will let you know how that went.
Beast
Sunday, September 19, 2010
Fwd: Post Yom Kippur Ride
Begin forwarded message:
From: Oriel Mor <oriel61@gmail.com>Date: September 19, 2010 11:42:44 PM EDTTo: Arthur Finkel <quasiguru@gmail.com>Subject: Re: Post Yom Kippur RideI did refer to him as Locomotive Bob a number of times in the past. He's pulled me along for countless miles over the years. Loco it is.Hey, "loco" also means "crazy" in Spanish. I think we have a winner.On Sep 19, 2010, at 11:29 PM, Arthur Finkel wrote:oops - locomotive?On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Oriel Mor <oriel61@gmail.com> wrote:Perhaps, if the train were to ride backwards.On Sep 19, 2010, at 10:41 PM, Arthur Finkel wrote:bob = caboose
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Oriel Mor <oriel61@gmail.com> wrote:Fabulous ride today. It was as if, being cleansed of our sins, we rode lighter and swifter... or perhaps it was just the great weather.Five of us met up at Base Camp: Bob, Stitches, Dubyah, Afterburner and Beast. The company could hardly have been better. Bob remains, as yet, nickname-less. Any suggestions?We took the LIE to the wall and West Hills. Along the LIE hooked up with a very strong couple. The woman wore a black Brickwell jersey and rode a Felt TT. It was interesting — as well as amusing— to note how we all quietly took turns drafting behind her. She was an awe-inspiring sight, and not just for her riding prowess.While we were struggling to keep up with her we blew past a very stretched out group of about half a dozen Wheelmen. Big A and Greg were with them. We told both of them to join us. Greg eventually did, even though he kept complaining that he was sick and didn't want to go too hard. As expected, he and Dubyah kept dropping most of us the entire way, especially on the climbs. Never believe Greg when he says he's not feeling strong enough. It's all relative... or a lie.Later yet, still on the LIE, we were caught by a very strong Triangle group of about 15-20 guys, even though it was still before 8:00. Turned out they had started early and were riding all the way to Montauk. I thought I heard one of them say that they were planning to ride back as well. Perhaps he was kidding, but I wouldn't put it past these guys. Regardless, considering how many miles they still had ahead of them, I couldn't believe how fast they were riding already. We could barely keep up with them.After West Hills we hit Lawrence. Greg, again, predictably, bitched about that climb, just before he proceeded to drop us unceremoniously. We then came back to 25A for Moore's, Oyster Bay and Sandy. In Syosset we only took a very short stop for some fluids and headed back to the campus and the LIE. Guess who pulled off the front in the campus loop. The return leg was also fast, yet uneventful. We were temporarily joined by a few 8:30 riders on their way back as well.We covered about 55 miles at an average of 17.7 (my computer). Others were, no doubt, faster than me.Next Sunday is the Tour of the Hamptons. Check your bikes during the week if you can. Anyone planning to ride the day before, as well as the century, try not to go to hard on Saturday. I'll be checking the weather forecast and issue my less-than-perfect prediction for the weekend.Beast
--
- Arthur -
--
- Arthur -
Fwd: Post Yom Kippur Ride
Begin forwarded message:
From: Oriel Mor <oriel61@gmail.com>Date: September 19, 2010 11:42:44 PM EDTTo: Arthur Finkel <quasiguru@gmail.com>Subject: Re: Post Yom Kippur RideI did refer to him as Locomotive Bob a number of times in the past. He's pulled me along for countless miles over the years. Loco it is.Hey, "loco" also means "crazy" in Spanish. I think we have a winner.On Sep 19, 2010, at 11:29 PM, Arthur Finkel wrote:oops - locomotive?On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Oriel Mor <oriel61@gmail.com> wrote:Perhaps, if the train were to ride backwards.On Sep 19, 2010, at 10:41 PM, Arthur Finkel wrote:bob = caboose
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Oriel Mor <oriel61@gmail.com> wrote:Fabulous ride today. It was as if, being cleansed of our sins, we rode lighter and swifter... or perhaps it was just the great weather.Five of us met up at Base Camp: Bob, Stitches, Dubyah, Afterburner and Beast. The company could hardly have been better. Bob remains, as yet, nickname-less. Any suggestions?We took the LIE to the wall and West Hills. Along the LIE hooked up with a very strong couple. The woman wore a black Brickwell jersey and rode a Felt TT. It was interesting — as well as amusing— to note how we all quietly took turns drafting behind her. She was an awe-inspiring sight, and not just for her riding prowess.While we were struggling to keep up with her we blew past a very stretched out group of about half a dozen Wheelmen. Big A and Greg were with them. We told both of them to join us. Greg eventually did, even though he kept complaining that he was sick and didn't want to go too hard. As expected, he and Dubyah kept dropping most of us the entire way, especially on the climbs. Never believe Greg when he says he's not feeling strong enough. It's all relative... or a lie.Later yet, still on the LIE, we were caught by a very strong Triangle group of about 15-20 guys, even though it was still before 8:00. Turned out they had started early and were riding all the way to Montauk. I thought I heard one of them say that they were planning to ride back as well. Perhaps he was kidding, but I wouldn't put it past these guys. Regardless, considering how many miles they still had ahead of them, I couldn't believe how fast they were riding already. We could barely keep up with them.After West Hills we hit Lawrence. Greg, again, predictably, bitched about that climb, just before he proceeded to drop us unceremoniously. We then came back to 25A for Moore's, Oyster Bay and Sandy. In Syosset we only took a very short stop for some fluids and headed back to the campus and the LIE. Guess who pulled off the front in the campus loop. The return leg was also fast, yet uneventful. We were temporarily joined by a few 8:30 riders on their way back as well.We covered about 55 miles at an average of 17.7 (my computer). Others were, no doubt, faster than me.Next Sunday is the Tour of the Hamptons. Check your bikes during the week if you can. Anyone planning to ride the day before, as well as the century, try not to go to hard on Saturday. I'll be checking the weather forecast and issue my less-than-perfect prediction for the weekend.Beast
--
- Arthur -
--
- Arthur -
Fwd: Post Yom Kippur Ride
Begin forwarded message:
From: Oriel Mor <oriel61@gmail.com>Date: September 19, 2010 11:28:35 PM EDTTo: Barry <bfeir@yahoo.com>Cc: Isaac Seinuk <isaacsei@optonline.net>, Arthur Finkel <quasiguru@gmail.com>, Jae Cho <jaekool@hotmail.com>, "David J. Shereck" <david@shereckvideo.com>, David Wargin <david_wargin@standardandpoors.com>, Gus Condiles <condiles@verizon.net>, Greg Keller <GKeller@chitwoodlaw.com>, George Uribe <george@visionimportgroup.com>, Bill Eisenberg <wjeis@aol.com>, Robert Leighton <rleighton@leightonassociates.com>, Mitchel Lang <mitchel@klearview.com>, Larry Nipon <larrynipon@gmail.com>, Todd Manas <Todd.Manas@towerswatson.com>, Jan Lemerman <krabice.sirek@seznam.cz>, Yihao Ou <yihaoou@yahoo.com>Subject: Re: Post Yom Kippur RideEnergy crisis? What energy crisis?On Sep 19, 2010, at 11:13 PM, Barry wrote:Finally, a use for my excess gas.
BarryAnyone who may be wondering who Afterburner is, you should have seen the way Barry likes to suddenly and repeatedly take off like a rocket on the way back.On Sep 19, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Oriel Mor wrote:Fabulous ride today. It was as if, being cleansed of our sins, we rode lighter and swifter... or perhaps it was just the great weather.Five of us met up at Base Camp: Bob, Stitches, Dubyah, Afterburner and Beast. The company could hardly have been better. Bob remains, as yet, nickname-less. Any suggestions?We took the LIE to the wall and West Hills. Along the LIE hooked up with a very strong couple. The woman wore a black Brickwell jersey and rode a Felt TT. It was interesting — as well as amusing— to note how we all quietly took turns drafting behind her. She was an awe-inspiring sight, and not just for her riding prowess.While we were struggling to keep up with her we blew past a very stretched out group of about half a dozen Wheelmen. Big A and Greg were with them. We told both of them to join us. Greg eventually did, even though he kept complaining that he was sick and didn't want to go too hard. As expected, he and Dubyah kept dropping most of us the entire way, especially on the climbs. Never believe Greg when he says he's not feeling strong enough. It's all relative... or a lie.Later yet, still on the LIE, we were caught by a very strong Triangle group of about 15-20 guys, even though it was still before 8:00. Turned out they had started early and were riding all the way to Montauk. I thought I heard one of them say that they were planning to ride back as well. Perhaps he was kidding, but I wouldn't put it past these guys. Regardless, considering how many miles they still had ahead of them, I couldn't believe how fast they were riding already. We could barely keep up with them.After West Hills we hit Lawrence. Greg, again, predictably, bitched about that climb, just before he proceeded to drop us unceremoniously. We then came back to 25A for Moore's, Oyster Bay and Sandy. In Syosset we only took a very short stop for some fluids and headed back to the campus and the LIE. Guess who pulled off the front in the campus loop. The return leg was also fast, yet uneventful. We were temporarily joined by a few 8:30 riders on their way back as well.We covered about 55 miles at an average of 17.7 (my computer). Others were, no doubt, faster than me.Next Sunday is the Tour of the Hamptons. Check your bikes during the week if you can. Anyone planning to ride the day before, as well as the century, try not to go to hard on Saturday. I'll be checking the weather forecast and issue my less-than-perfect prediction for the weekend.Beast
Post Yom Kippur Ride
Fabulous ride today. It was as if, being cleansed of our sins, we rode lighter and swifter... or perhaps it was just the great weather.
Five of us met up at Base Camp: Bob, Stitches, Dubyah, Afterburner and Beast. The company could hardly have been better. Anyone who may be wondering who Afterburner is, you should have seen the way Barry likes to suddenly and repeatedly take off like a rocket on the way back. Bob remains, as yet, nickname-less. Any suggestions?
We took the LIE to the wall and West Hills. Along the LIE hooked up with a very strong couple. The woman wore a black Brickwell jersey and rode a Felt TT. It was interesting — as well as amusing— to note how we all quietly took turns drafting behind her. She was an awe-inspiring sight, and not just for her riding prowess.
While we were struggling to keep up with her we blew past a very stretched out group of about half a dozen Wheelmen. Big A and Greg were with them. We told both of them to join us. Greg eventually did, even though he kept complaining that he was sick and didn't want to go too hard. As expected, he and Dubyah kept dropping most of us the entire way, especially on the climbs. Never believe Greg when he says he's not feeling strong enough. It's all relative... or a lie.
Later yet, still on the LIE, we were caught by a very strong Triangle group of about 15-20 guys, even though it was still before 8:00. Turned out they had started early and were riding all the way to Montauk. I thought I heard one of them say that they were planning to ride back as well. Perhaps he was kidding, but I wouldn't put it past these guys. Regardless, considering how many miles they still had ahead of them, I couldn't believe how fast they were riding already. We could barely keep up with them.
After West Hills we hit Lawrence. Greg, again, predictably, bitched about that climb, just before he proceeded to drop us unceremoniously. We then came back to 25A for Moore's, Oyster Bay and Sandy. In Syosset we only took a very short stop for some fluids and headed back to the campus and the LIE. Guess who pulled off the front in the campus loop. The return leg was also fast, yet uneventful. We were temporarily joined by a few 8:30 riders on their way back as well.
We covered about 55 miles at an average of 17.7 (my computer). Others were, no doubt, faster than me.
Next Sunday is the Tour of the Hamptons. Check your bikes during the week if you can. Anyone planning to ride the day before, as well as the century, try not to go to hard on Saturday. I'll be checking the weather forecast and issue my less-than-perfect prediction for the weekend.
Beast
Saturday, September 18, 2010
Re: Yom Kippur Ride
At what time are you guys getting together tomm.
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From: Oriel Mor <oriel61@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sat Sep 18 11:13:08 2010
Subject: Yom Kippur Ride
No one ever accused me of being a nice Jewish boy... and got away with
it.
I rode with the 8:00 Triangle group today and loved it. It was just
the right speed and intensity for my taste. Ended up at 49 miles with
an average of 18.6. I even took my turn at the front a number of times.
Yom Kippur Ride
it.
I rode with the 8:00 Triangle group today and loved it. It was just
the right speed and intensity for my taste. Ended up at 49 miles with
an average of 18.6. I even took my turn at the front a number of times.
Once again, at the finish sprint I went way too early and got passed by a half-dozen fast guys. I'm still new at this sprint finish thing.
I started the ride by hopping onto the peloton on the LIE. Eventually I was spotted by Jae, who recognized me from the last SIG (it helps to have your name on your bike). Jae is a strong rider and a recent SIG graduate, so he knows a thing or two about riding in groups. He lives in Bayside, so hopefully he can join our club rides some time in the future. Welcome to the Renegades, Jae.
As is usual, after reaching "the wall," the group of 40-50 riders split up into two or more smaller groups. Jae and I joined the lead sub-group (about 15 or so) and we proceeded down Woodbury Road, 108, Cold Spring, Turkey Hill and then some other local roads I hadn't ridden before. Very pretty. I'll try to duplicate that part some time in the future with this group. These guys (no gals today) like to ride fast, but stays clear of the steep stuff.
Eventually we found ourselves back onto 108, turned onto Stillwell, then turned toward Oyster Bay, where we took a short snack break at a local deli. My mileage at that point was about 30.
From there we took some other roads I don't usually cover, until we came to a point I finally recognized, and we headed back toward the LIE, through Old Brookville and Wheatley.
Back on the LIE I tried not to spend too much time out in the wind because I wanted to have something in the tank for the sprint finish, but the guys in front set a strong pace and it was all I could do just to stay on their wheels and still, hopefully have a chance at the end. It was to no avail. Experience matters.
After Jae and I parted ways back in Little Neck, I rode back to my neighborhood, through Middle Neck Road. It was almost a ghost town. Blame it on the Day Of Atonement. Then I decided to cover another dozen miles or so, and I did a backwards Kings Point loop. Ended up at home with 62 miles under my saddle for the day. By the time I reached home, my average had dropped all the way down to 17.3. Obviously that part was just a cool-down ride. Riding in a fast group makes a huge difference. When you're out there on your own the wind has a way of mellowing you out.
Right now I'm watching the UCI Pro Tour in Quebec (Grand Prix Cycliste de Quebec) on Versus. Right after that, is the critical and brutal mountain stage of the penultimate day of the Vuelta on Universal Sports.
So who is riding tomorrow?
Friday, September 17, 2010
Re: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
Way to go Flackaroos!
On Sep 12, 2010, at 7:17 PM, Wargin, David wrote:
Our relay team (Flackaroos) came in 8th out of 41 teams. I biked 56 miles -- completing course in 2:45 min. (Avg 20.6 mph). I ranked 4th on the bike. It was a nice hilly course too.
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Sent: Sun Sep 12 16:40:23 2010
Subject: Re: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
It's simple--I'd pull a McGiver (McGruber) and whip out my handy-dandy paperclip.
Sign me up.
I'll share my race results later.
Sorry I missed the 10 1/2 day yesterday...
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Sent: Sun Sep 12 16:32:46 2010
Subject: Re: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
Thanks, Greg. Now they'll all think I'm a witch doctor.
------Original Message------
From: Greg Keller
To: Ori Mor
To: Isaac Seinuk
To: Arthur Finkel
To: NSR Blog
To: David J. Shereck
To: David Wargin
To: Gus Condiles
To: Barry Feirstein
To: George Uribe
To: Bill Eisenberg
To: Bob Leighton
To: Mitchel Lang
To: Larry Nipon
To: Todd Manas
To: Jan Lemerman
To: Yihao Ou
Subject: RE: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
Sent: Sep 12, 2010 4:29 PM
I don't think we have any choice. anyone who doesn't go to this class
will end up with a broken chain on their next solo ride.
-----Original Message-----
From: Oriel Mor [mailto:oriel61@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 4:19 PM
To: Isaac Seinuk; Arthur Finkel;
northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com; David J. Shereck; David
Wargin; Gus Condiles; Barry Feirstein; Gregory E. Keller; George Uribe;
Bill Eisenberg; Robert Leighton; Mitchel Lang; Larry Nipon; Todd Manas;
Jan Lemerman; Yihao Ou
Subject: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
Something that Bob mentioned yesterday, after my chain mishap, got me
thinking. How many in this group know how to fix a broken chain out on
the road? It doesn't happen often, but if it did, and you're by
yourselves, how many in this group would have to call for help to be
able to finish the ride or just to get back home?
Even those chains that use the special, tool-free link systems for
easy installation and removal could break mid-ride. In that case you'd
need to be able open and close standard links to get going again.
As it happens, there's not all that much to it and I'd be more than
happy to share the knowledge. I'm volunteering to give a little class
to the group to show how to use the chain tool to add and remove links
and to close back a chain. We could do this just before one of our
regular rides and it would take no more than 15 minutes or so.
Any interest?
Beast
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Monday, September 13, 2010
Re: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
I vote for both wrenches AND wenches.
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From: "Robert Leighton" <rleighton@leightonassociates.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 22:16:20 -0400
To: <isaacsei@optonline.net>; 'Barry'<bfeir@yahoo.com>
Cc: 'George Uribe'<George@visionimportgroup.com>; 'Oriel Mor'<oriel61@gmail.com>; 'Arthur Finkel'<quasiguru@gmail.com>; <northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com>; 'David J. Shereck'<david@shereckvideo.com>; 'David Wargin'<david_wargin@standardandpoors.com>; 'Gus Condiles'<condiles@verizon.net>; 'Greg Keller'<GKeller@chitwoodlaw.com>; 'Bill Eisenberg'<wjeis@aol.com>; 'Mitchel Lang'<mitchel@klearview.com>; 'Larry Nipon'<larrynipon@gmail.com>; 'Todd Manas'<Todd.Manas@towerswatson.com>; 'Jan Lemerman'<krabice.sirek@seznam.cz>; 'Yihao Ou'<yihaoou@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
Hear, Hear, what a grand idea! Diner with the boys and some wrenches! Or better yet some wenches.
From: isaacsei@optonline.net [mailto:isaacsei@optonline.net]
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 6:12 PM
To: Barry
Cc: George Uribe; Robert Leighton; Oriel Mor; Arthur Finkel; <northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com>; David J. Shereck; David Wargin; Gus Condiles; Greg Keller; Bill Eisenberg; Mitchel Lang; Larry Nipon; Todd Manas; Jan Lemerman; Yihao Ou
Subject: Re: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
I took a similar class with Mitchel when I bought a new chain. Why don't we hire a wrench to teach us basic and advanced wrenching one night. A dinner seminar in the winter at some point.
----- Original Message -----
From: Barry
Subject: Re: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
To: George Uribe
> That's what we've been missing all summer - more alcohol.
>
> Barry
>
> On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:57 PM, "George Uribe"
>
>
> > BRILLIANT!!!!!!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Leighton
> [mailto:rleighton@leightonassociates.com]
> > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 4:44 PM
> > To: 'Oriel Mor'; 'Isaac Seinuk'; 'Arthur Finkel';
> > northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com; 'David J. Shereck';
> 'David> Wargin'; 'Gus Condiles'; 'Barry Feirstein'; 'Greg
> Keller'; George Uribe;
> > 'Bill Eisenberg'; 'Mitchel Lang'; 'Larry Nipon'; 'Todd Manas'; 'Jan
> > Lemerman'; 'Yihao Ou'
> > Subject: RE: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
> >
> > I'd prefer the class after the ride with something cold to
> drink. Your
> > thoughts?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Oriel Mor [mailto:oriel61@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 4:19 PM
> > To: Isaac Seinuk; Arthur Finkel;
> > northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com;
> > David J. Shereck; David Wargin; Gus Condiles; Barry Feirstein; Greg
> > Keller; George Uribe; Bill Eisenberg; Robert Leighton; Mitchel Lang;
> > Larry Nipon; Todd Manas; Jan Lemerman; Yihao Ou
> > Subject: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
> >
> > Something that Bob mentioned yesterday, after my chain mishap,
> got me
> > thinking. How many in this group know how to fix a broken
> chain out on
> > the road? It doesn't happen often, but if it did, and you're by
> > yourselves, how many in this group would have to call for help
> to be
> > able to finish the ride or just to get back home?
> >
> > Even those chains that use the special, tool-free link systems
> for easy
> > installation and removal could break mid-ride. In that case
> you'd need
> > to be able open and close standard links to get going again.
> >
> > As it happens, there's not all that much to it and I'd be more than
> > happy to share the knowledge. I'm volunteering to give a
> little class to
> > the group to show how to use the chain tool to add and remove
> links and
> > to close back a chain. We could do this just before one of our
> regular> rides and it would take no more than 15 minutes or so.
> >
> > Any interest?
> >
> > Beast
> >
> >
> >
>
RE: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
Hear, Hear, what a grand idea! Diner with the boys and some wrenches! Or better yet some wenches.
From: isaacsei@optonline.net [mailto:isaacsei@optonline.net]
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 6:12 PM
To: Barry
Cc: George Uribe; Robert Leighton; Oriel Mor; Arthur Finkel; <northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com>; David J. Shereck; David Wargin; Gus Condiles; Greg Keller; Bill Eisenberg; Mitchel Lang; Larry Nipon; Todd Manas; Jan Lemerman; Yihao Ou
Subject: Re: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
I took a similar class with Mitchel when I bought a new chain. Why don't we hire a wrench to teach us basic and advanced wrenching one night. A dinner seminar in the winter at some point.
----- Original Message -----
From: Barry
Subject: Re: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
To: George Uribe
> That's what we've been missing all summer - more alcohol.
>
> Barry
>
> On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:57 PM, "George Uribe"
>
>
> > BRILLIANT!!!!!!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Leighton
> [mailto:rleighton@leightonassociates.com]
> > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 4:44 PM
> > To: 'Oriel Mor'; 'Isaac Seinuk'; 'Arthur Finkel';
> > northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com; 'David J. Shereck';
> 'David> Wargin'; 'Gus Condiles'; 'Barry Feirstein'; 'Greg
> Keller'; George Uribe;
> > 'Bill Eisenberg'; 'Mitchel Lang'; 'Larry Nipon'; 'Todd Manas'; 'Jan
> > Lemerman'; 'Yihao Ou'
> > Subject: RE: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
> >
> > I'd prefer the class after the ride with something cold to
> drink. Your
> > thoughts?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Oriel Mor [mailto:oriel61@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 4:19 PM
> > To: Isaac Seinuk; Arthur Finkel;
> > northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com;
> > David J. Shereck; David Wargin; Gus Condiles; Barry Feirstein; Greg
> > Keller; George Uribe; Bill Eisenberg; Robert Leighton; Mitchel Lang;
> > Larry Nipon; Todd Manas; Jan Lemerman; Yihao Ou
> > Subject: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
> >
> > Something that Bob mentioned yesterday, after my chain mishap,
> got me
> > thinking. How many in this group know how to fix a broken
> chain out on
> > the road? It doesn't happen often, but if it did, and you're by
> > yourselves, how many in this group would have to call for help
> to be
> > able to finish the ride or just to get back home?
> >
> > Even those chains that use the special, tool-free link systems
> for easy
> > installation and removal could break mid-ride. In that case
> you'd need
> > to be able open and close standard links to get going again.
> >
> > As it happens, there's not all that much to it and I'd be more than
> > happy to share the knowledge. I'm volunteering to give a
> little class to
> > the group to show how to use the chain tool to add and remove
> links and
> > to close back a chain. We could do this just before one of our
> regular> rides and it would take no more than 15 minutes or so.
> >
> > Any interest?
> >
> > Beast
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
Throwing back a beer or 3, was a reference to drinking in general, though I think any class worth attending is always better absorbed in a compromised state (look at any college transcript).
Barry
On Sep 13, 2010, at 6:01 PM, Oriel Mor <oriel61@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's not that I wouldn't like a tall cool one post ride.
>
> I think that before the ride, while everyone is still fresh, is the better time for a class.
>
> At the end of the ride, some people may have dropped off, some may decide they need to get back home early, some may bee to tired to really pay attention.
>
> But if everyone prefers to do it at the end, I'm fine with that.
>
> On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:57 PM, George Uribe wrote:
>
>> BRILLIANT!!!!!!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Leighton [mailto:rleighton@leightonassociates.com]
>> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 4:44 PM
>> To: 'Oriel Mor'; 'Isaac Seinuk'; 'Arthur Finkel';
>> northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com; 'David J. Shereck'; 'David
>> Wargin'; 'Gus Condiles'; 'Barry Feirstein'; 'Greg Keller'; George Uribe;
>> 'Bill Eisenberg'; 'Mitchel Lang'; 'Larry Nipon'; 'Todd Manas'; 'Jan
>> Lemerman'; 'Yihao Ou'
>> Subject: RE: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
>>
>> I'd prefer the class after the ride with something cold to drink. Your
>> thoughts?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Oriel Mor [mailto:oriel61@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 4:19 PM
>> To: Isaac Seinuk; Arthur Finkel;
>> northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com;
>> David J. Shereck; David Wargin; Gus Condiles; Barry Feirstein; Greg
>> Keller; George Uribe; Bill Eisenberg; Robert Leighton; Mitchel Lang;
>> Larry Nipon; Todd Manas; Jan Lemerman; Yihao Ou
>> Subject: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
>>
>> Something that Bob mentioned yesterday, after my chain mishap, got me
>> thinking. How many in this group know how to fix a broken chain out on
>> the road? It doesn't happen often, but if it did, and you're by
>> yourselves, how many in this group would have to call for help to be
>> able to finish the ride or just to get back home?
>>
>> Even those chains that use the special, tool-free link systems for easy
>> installation and removal could break mid-ride. In that case you'd need
>> to be able open and close standard links to get going again.
>>
>> As it happens, there's not all that much to it and I'd be more than
>> happy to share the knowledge. I'm volunteering to give a little class to
>> the group to show how to use the chain tool to add and remove links and
>> to close back a chain. We could do this just before one of our regular
>> rides and it would take no more than 15 minutes or so.
>>
>> Any interest?
>>
>> Beast
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
I took a similar class with Mitchel when I bought a new chain. Why don't we hire a wrench to teach us basic and advanced wrenching one night. A dinner seminar in the winter at some point.
----- Original Message -----
From: Barry
Date: Monday, September 13, 2010 6:07 pm
Subject: Re: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
To: George Uribe
Cc: Robert Leighton, Oriel Mor , Isaac Seinuk , Arthur Finkel , "" , "David J. Shereck" , David Wargin , Gus Condiles , Greg Keller , Bill Eisenberg , Mitchel Lang , Larry Nipon , Todd Manas , Jan Lemerman , Yihao Ou
> That's what we've been missing all summer - more alcohol.
>
> Barry
>
> On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:57 PM, "George Uribe"
>wrote:
>
> > BRILLIANT!!!!!!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Leighton
> [mailto:rleighton@leightonassociates.com]
> > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 4:44 PM
> > To: 'Oriel Mor'; 'Isaac Seinuk'; 'Arthur Finkel';
> > northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com; 'David J. Shereck';
> 'David> Wargin'; 'Gus Condiles'; 'Barry Feirstein'; 'Greg
> Keller'; George Uribe;
> > 'Bill Eisenberg'; 'Mitchel Lang'; 'Larry Nipon'; 'Todd Manas'; 'Jan
> > Lemerman'; 'Yihao Ou'
> > Subject: RE: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
> >
> > I'd prefer the class after the ride with something cold to
> drink. Your
> > thoughts?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Oriel Mor [mailto:oriel61@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 4:19 PM
> > To: Isaac Seinuk; Arthur Finkel;
> > northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com;
> > David J. Shereck; David Wargin; Gus Condiles; Barry Feirstein; Greg
> > Keller; George Uribe; Bill Eisenberg; Robert Leighton; Mitchel Lang;
> > Larry Nipon; Todd Manas; Jan Lemerman; Yihao Ou
> > Subject: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
> >
> > Something that Bob mentioned yesterday, after my chain mishap,
> got me
> > thinking. How many in this group know how to fix a broken
> chain out on
> > the road? It doesn't happen often, but if it did, and you're by
> > yourselves, how many in this group would have to call for help
> to be
> > able to finish the ride or just to get back home?
> >
> > Even those chains that use the special, tool-free link systems
> for easy
> > installation and removal could break mid-ride. In that case
> you'd need
> > to be able open and close standard links to get going again.
> >
> > As it happens, there's not all that much to it and I'd be more than
> > happy to share the knowledge. I'm volunteering to give a
> little class to
> > the group to show how to use the chain tool to add and remove
> links and
> > to close back a chain. We could do this just before one of our
> regular> rides and it would take no more than 15 minutes or so.
> >
> > Any interest?
> >
> > Beast
> >
> >
> >
>
----- Original Message -----
From: Barry
Date: Monday, September 13, 2010 6:07 pm
Subject: Re: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
To: George Uribe
Cc: Robert Leighton
> That's what we've been missing all summer - more alcohol.
>
> Barry
>
> On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:57 PM, "George Uribe"
>
>
> > BRILLIANT!!!!!!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Leighton
> [mailto:rleighton@leightonassociates.com]
> > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 4:44 PM
> > To: 'Oriel Mor'; 'Isaac Seinuk'; 'Arthur Finkel';
> > northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com; 'David J. Shereck';
> 'David> Wargin'; 'Gus Condiles'; 'Barry Feirstein'; 'Greg
> Keller'; George Uribe;
> > 'Bill Eisenberg'; 'Mitchel Lang'; 'Larry Nipon'; 'Todd Manas'; 'Jan
> > Lemerman'; 'Yihao Ou'
> > Subject: RE: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
> >
> > I'd prefer the class after the ride with something cold to
> drink. Your
> > thoughts?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Oriel Mor [mailto:oriel61@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 4:19 PM
> > To: Isaac Seinuk; Arthur Finkel;
> > northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com;
> > David J. Shereck; David Wargin; Gus Condiles; Barry Feirstein; Greg
> > Keller; George Uribe; Bill Eisenberg; Robert Leighton; Mitchel Lang;
> > Larry Nipon; Todd Manas; Jan Lemerman; Yihao Ou
> > Subject: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
> >
> > Something that Bob mentioned yesterday, after my chain mishap,
> got me
> > thinking. How many in this group know how to fix a broken
> chain out on
> > the road? It doesn't happen often, but if it did, and you're by
> > yourselves, how many in this group would have to call for help
> to be
> > able to finish the ride or just to get back home?
> >
> > Even those chains that use the special, tool-free link systems
> for easy
> > installation and removal could break mid-ride. In that case
> you'd need
> > to be able open and close standard links to get going again.
> >
> > As it happens, there's not all that much to it and I'd be more than
> > happy to share the knowledge. I'm volunteering to give a
> little class to
> > the group to show how to use the chain tool to add and remove
> links and
> > to close back a chain. We could do this just before one of our
> regular> rides and it would take no more than 15 minutes or so.
> >
> > Any interest?
> >
> > Beast
> >
> >
> >
>
RE: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
YEAH!!!!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Barry [mailto:bfeir@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 6:02 PM
To: George Uribe
Cc: Robert Leighton; Oriel Mor; Isaac Seinuk; Arthur Finkel;
<northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com>; David J. Shereck; David
Wargin; Gus Condiles; Greg Keller; Bill Eisenberg; Mitchel Lang; Larry
Nipon; Todd Manas; Jan Lemerman; Yihao Ou
Subject: Re: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
That's what we've been missing all summer - more alcohol.
Barry
On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:57 PM, "George Uribe"
<George@visionimportgroup.com> wrote:
> BRILLIANT!!!!!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Leighton [mailto:rleighton@leightonassociates.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 4:44 PM
> To: 'Oriel Mor'; 'Isaac Seinuk'; 'Arthur Finkel';
> northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com; 'David J. Shereck'; 'David
> Wargin'; 'Gus Condiles'; 'Barry Feirstein'; 'Greg Keller'; George
> Uribe; 'Bill Eisenberg'; 'Mitchel Lang'; 'Larry Nipon'; 'Todd Manas';
> 'Jan Lemerman'; 'Yihao Ou'
> Subject: RE: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
>
> I'd prefer the class after the ride with something cold to drink.
> Your thoughts?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Oriel Mor [mailto:oriel61@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 4:19 PM
> To: Isaac Seinuk; Arthur Finkel;
> northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com;
> David J. Shereck; David Wargin; Gus Condiles; Barry Feirstein; Greg
> Keller; George Uribe; Bill Eisenberg; Robert Leighton; Mitchel Lang;
> Larry Nipon; Todd Manas; Jan Lemerman; Yihao Ou
> Subject: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
>
> Something that Bob mentioned yesterday, after my chain mishap, got me
> thinking. How many in this group know how to fix a broken chain out on
> the road? It doesn't happen often, but if it did, and you're by
> yourselves, how many in this group would have to call for help to be
> able to finish the ride or just to get back home?
>
> Even those chains that use the special, tool-free link systems for
> easy installation and removal could break mid-ride. In that case you'd
> need to be able open and close standard links to get going again.
>
> As it happens, there's not all that much to it and I'd be more than
> happy to share the knowledge. I'm volunteering to give a little class
> to the group to show how to use the chain tool to add and remove links
> and to close back a chain. We could do this just before one of our
> regular rides and it would take no more than 15 minutes or so.
>
> Any interest?
>
> Beast
>
>
>
Re: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
That's what we've been missing all summer - more alcohol.
Barry
On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:57 PM, "George Uribe" <George@visionimportgroup.com> wrote:
> BRILLIANT!!!!!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Leighton [mailto:rleighton@leightonassociates.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 4:44 PM
> To: 'Oriel Mor'; 'Isaac Seinuk'; 'Arthur Finkel';
> northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com; 'David J. Shereck'; 'David
> Wargin'; 'Gus Condiles'; 'Barry Feirstein'; 'Greg Keller'; George Uribe;
> 'Bill Eisenberg'; 'Mitchel Lang'; 'Larry Nipon'; 'Todd Manas'; 'Jan
> Lemerman'; 'Yihao Ou'
> Subject: RE: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
>
> I'd prefer the class after the ride with something cold to drink. Your
> thoughts?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Oriel Mor [mailto:oriel61@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 4:19 PM
> To: Isaac Seinuk; Arthur Finkel;
> northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com;
> David J. Shereck; David Wargin; Gus Condiles; Barry Feirstein; Greg
> Keller; George Uribe; Bill Eisenberg; Robert Leighton; Mitchel Lang;
> Larry Nipon; Todd Manas; Jan Lemerman; Yihao Ou
> Subject: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
>
> Something that Bob mentioned yesterday, after my chain mishap, got me
> thinking. How many in this group know how to fix a broken chain out on
> the road? It doesn't happen often, but if it did, and you're by
> yourselves, how many in this group would have to call for help to be
> able to finish the ride or just to get back home?
>
> Even those chains that use the special, tool-free link systems for easy
> installation and removal could break mid-ride. In that case you'd need
> to be able open and close standard links to get going again.
>
> As it happens, there's not all that much to it and I'd be more than
> happy to share the knowledge. I'm volunteering to give a little class to
> the group to show how to use the chain tool to add and remove links and
> to close back a chain. We could do this just before one of our regular
> rides and it would take no more than 15 minutes or so.
>
> Any interest?
>
> Beast
>
>
>
Re: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
It's not that I wouldn't like a tall cool one post ride.
I think that before the ride, while everyone is still fresh, is the
better time for a class.
At the end of the ride, some people may have dropped off, some may
decide they need to get back home early, some may bee to tired to
really pay attention.
But if everyone prefers to do it at the end, I'm fine with that.
On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:57 PM, George Uribe wrote:
> BRILLIANT!!!!!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Leighton [mailto:rleighton@leightonassociates.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 4:44 PM
> To: 'Oriel Mor'; 'Isaac Seinuk'; 'Arthur Finkel';
> northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com; 'David J. Shereck'; 'David
> Wargin'; 'Gus Condiles'; 'Barry Feirstein'; 'Greg Keller'; George
> Uribe;
> 'Bill Eisenberg'; 'Mitchel Lang'; 'Larry Nipon'; 'Todd Manas'; 'Jan
> Lemerman'; 'Yihao Ou'
> Subject: RE: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
>
> I'd prefer the class after the ride with something cold to drink.
> Your
> thoughts?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Oriel Mor [mailto:oriel61@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 4:19 PM
> To: Isaac Seinuk; Arthur Finkel;
> northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com;
> David J. Shereck; David Wargin; Gus Condiles; Barry Feirstein; Greg
> Keller; George Uribe; Bill Eisenberg; Robert Leighton; Mitchel Lang;
> Larry Nipon; Todd Manas; Jan Lemerman; Yihao Ou
> Subject: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
>
> Something that Bob mentioned yesterday, after my chain mishap, got me
> thinking. How many in this group know how to fix a broken chain out on
> the road? It doesn't happen often, but if it did, and you're by
> yourselves, how many in this group would have to call for help to be
> able to finish the ride or just to get back home?
>
> Even those chains that use the special, tool-free link systems for
> easy
> installation and removal could break mid-ride. In that case you'd need
> to be able open and close standard links to get going again.
>
> As it happens, there's not all that much to it and I'd be more than
> happy to share the knowledge. I'm volunteering to give a little
> class to
> the group to show how to use the chain tool to add and remove links
> and
> to close back a chain. We could do this just before one of our regular
> rides and it would take no more than 15 minutes or so.
>
> Any interest?
>
> Beast
>
>
>
RE: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
BRILLIANT!!!!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Leighton [mailto:rleighton@leightonassociates.com]
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 4:44 PM
To: 'Oriel Mor'; 'Isaac Seinuk'; 'Arthur Finkel';
northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com; 'David J. Shereck'; 'David
Wargin'; 'Gus Condiles'; 'Barry Feirstein'; 'Greg Keller'; George Uribe;
'Bill Eisenberg'; 'Mitchel Lang'; 'Larry Nipon'; 'Todd Manas'; 'Jan
Lemerman'; 'Yihao Ou'
Subject: RE: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
I'd prefer the class after the ride with something cold to drink. Your
thoughts?
-----Original Message-----
From: Oriel Mor [mailto:oriel61@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 4:19 PM
To: Isaac Seinuk; Arthur Finkel;
northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com;
David J. Shereck; David Wargin; Gus Condiles; Barry Feirstein; Greg
Keller; George Uribe; Bill Eisenberg; Robert Leighton; Mitchel Lang;
Larry Nipon; Todd Manas; Jan Lemerman; Yihao Ou
Subject: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
Something that Bob mentioned yesterday, after my chain mishap, got me
thinking. How many in this group know how to fix a broken chain out on
the road? It doesn't happen often, but if it did, and you're by
yourselves, how many in this group would have to call for help to be
able to finish the ride or just to get back home?
Even those chains that use the special, tool-free link systems for easy
installation and removal could break mid-ride. In that case you'd need
to be able open and close standard links to get going again.
As it happens, there's not all that much to it and I'd be more than
happy to share the knowledge. I'm volunteering to give a little class to
the group to show how to use the chain tool to add and remove links and
to close back a chain. We could do this just before one of our regular
rides and it would take no more than 15 minutes or so.
Any interest?
Beast
RE: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
I'd prefer the class after the ride with something cold to drink. Your
thoughts?
thoughts?
-----Original Message-----
From: Oriel Mor [mailto:oriel61@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 4:19 PM
To: Isaac Seinuk; Arthur Finkel; northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com;
David J. Shereck; David Wargin; Gus Condiles; Barry Feirstein; Greg Keller;
George Uribe; Bill Eisenberg; Robert Leighton; Mitchel Lang; Larry Nipon;
Todd Manas; Jan Lemerman; Yihao Ou
Subject: Your Chain Just Broke. Now What?
Something that Bob mentioned yesterday, after my chain mishap, got me
thinking. How many in this group know how to fix a broken chain out on
the road? It doesn't happen often, but if it did, and you're by
yourselves, how many in this group would have to call for help to be
able to finish the ride or just to get back home?
Even those chains that use the special, tool-free link systems for
easy installation and removal could break mid-ride. In that case you'd
need to be able open and close standard links to get going again.
As it happens, there's not all that much to it and I'd be more than
happy to share the knowledge. I'm volunteering to give a little class
to the group to show how to use the chain tool to add and remove links
and to close back a chain. We could do this just before one of our
regular rides and it would take no more than 15 minutes or so.
Any interest?
Beast
RE: 9/11 Ride
I am in for both. Thanks.
From: Robert Leighton [mailto:rleighton@leightonassociates.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 9:50 AM
To: 'Arthur Finkel'
Cc: 'Oriel Mor'; 'Isaac Seinuk'; northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com; 'David J. Shereck'; 'David Wargin'; 'Gus Condiles'; 'Barry Feirstein'; 'Greg Keller'; George Uribe; 'Bill Eisenberg'; 'Mitchel Lang'; 'Larry Nipon'; 'Todd Manas'; 'Jan Lemerman'; 'Yihao Ou'
Subject: RE: 9/11 Ride
Who’s interested in either the Hamptons century in 2 weeks on 9/26, or the MS Century the following weekend in NYC Oct 3rd? please let me know so we can organize a group for each ride.
Bob
From: Arthur Finkel [mailto:quasiguru@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:25 PM
To: Robert Leighton
Cc: Oriel Mor; Isaac Seinuk; northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com; David J. Shereck; David Wargin; Gus Condiles; Barry Feirstein; Greg Keller; George Uribe; Bill Eisenberg; Mitchel Lang; Larry Nipon; Todd Manas; Jan Lemerman; Yihao Ou
Subject: Re: 9/11 Ride
It certainly was a sin not to ride today. I set the alarm for 7:15 but when I woke up thought I could use more sleep (lame excuse - i have a cold). I still have a couple of weeks to throw away sins. I have not done a road ride since early July.
Greg, Ori - I am going to Glacier Ridge tomorrow at 7:30 if you are interested. This will be a social pace.
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Robert Leighton <rleighton@leightonassociates.com> wrote:
Most excellent ride today! As someone else put it, it was a 10 1/2 on a
scale of 0 to 10. Not sure I can ride Sunday; will decide in the am.
Cheers.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Oriel Mor [mailto:oriel61@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 2:33 PM
To: Isaac Seinuk; Arthur Finkel; northshorerenegades.chainring@blogger.com;
David J. Shereck; David Wargin; Gus Condiles; Barry Feirstein; Greg Keller;
George Uribe; Bill Eisenberg; Robert Leighton; Mitchel Lang; Larry Nipon;
Todd Manas; Jan Lemerman; Yihao Ou
Subject: 9/11 Ride
You guys missed a perfect riding weather day. It was just Bob and I at
home base. I wore my 9/11 memorial jersey. Bob was in his full Radio
Shack kit.
We did one of our usual routes, straight out to West Hills, back to
108 and up Lawrence Road, to be followed by the Snake Hill and
Huntington segments. Just as we started attacking Lawrence, my chain
broke, right in the steepest part. I then understood why my gear had
been skipping earlier. One of the outer plates had obviously popped
and, under the full load of the steepest of climbs, the link gave out.
In this case I couldn't just push the link back in its place. I had no
choice but to remove a pair of links and close the chain back, making
it just a little shorter than before. I had to get my hands really
dirty, because I never clean my drivetrain. It was tough to start
pushing the good pin out of its link, because my portable chain tool
has very little leverage on the fixed part. But with Bob's help and a
couple of sticks, I was able to improvise a longer handle, got that
work going and quickly finished the job.
There's nothing like starting off again on a 20% incline (it felt like
20%, anyway). From that point on, my only concern was to watch my
gears and avoid the largest one or two rear cogs whenever I was in the
large chainring.
There was a street fair going on by the Syosset train station with
partial road closures. We had a short stop at the 7-11. We completed
our ride the usual way, including the campus. We didn't pick up any
new members today, even though we were temporarily joined by one or
two riders every now and then. We dropped all but one.
Beast
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- Arthur -
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